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Old May 21, 2007, 12:43 AM // 00:43   #21
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can you do the assassins without the halycon job?
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Old May 21, 2007, 03:04 AM // 03:04   #22
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so if i got this straight, basically ur pulling them to the wall, then move to the right so ur 3 way sandwiching them with the 90 degree walls and urself? I can't really tell from the video =P

also, essence bond does give you extra energy even when you are taking 0 dmg, can ppl please stop saying it doesn't... the only reason it doens't is because you guys are using shielding hands instead of shield of absorption.

as for the scatter management for 2 ppl, i only found chokepoints in the UW, haven't had any success elsewhere, i think this is better for general use.
It might work with more than 90 degrees, just the concept is they run back, hit the wall, then start running back to you, usually they will "slide" past you, but if you body block them they have either to run to you or against the wall. (You don't need to push them all the way back, just to the end of the corner)

It works in almost anywhere, if there is 3 or less, don't bother, since scatter won't happen.


Anyone figure out whats the problem with my vid?
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Old May 21, 2007, 08:31 AM // 08:31   #23
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works fine with N/Mo too. also was able to kill them one by one quickly since if you cast SS on them and wand the one you're targeting, the rest of the assassins should be at about 10 health. 1 or 2 wand hits per will kill each so you can get more drops that way instead of them all dying at once.
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Old May 22, 2007, 12:33 AM // 00:33   #24
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Oh, good idea, thanks,
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Old May 22, 2007, 02:28 AM // 02:28   #25
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I noticed that Essence Bond don't Trigger unless you take elemental damage. It's supposed to trigger from physical damage, but it just doesn't for some reason. Not quite sure what counts for physical damage when using Essence Bond. Balthazar is all you need for most farms...
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Old May 22, 2007, 05:42 AM // 05:42   #26
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I noticed that Essence Bond don't Trigger unless you take elemental damage. It's supposed to trigger from physical damage, but it just doesn't for some reason. Not quite sure what counts for physical damage when using Essence Bond. Balthazar is all you need for most farms...
what?! No.
People have been using Essence+spirit since the dawn of time against physical dmg. It works.
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Old May 22, 2007, 08:09 AM // 08:09   #27
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Essence bond triggers on elemental or physical damage. Light (holy)/dark damage and life steals do not trigger it.

Absorbed damage counts as damage, ie Shield of Absorption works.
Damaged reduced to zero = no damage, ie essence bond does not trigger when damaged reduced to zero by Shielding Hands.

This is how the game engine implements it, don't ask me why.
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Old May 23, 2007, 12:21 AM // 00:21   #28
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Originally Posted by Riken Chrono
can you do the assassins without the halycon job?
Can you just read the original tread on farming these guys?

BTW OP great find. Right angles FTW.
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Old May 23, 2007, 01:25 AM // 01:25   #29
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Thanks, I have some other ideas with other AoE, I will post soon.
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Old May 23, 2007, 04:38 PM // 16:38   #30
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Great find! I agree it's easier to use the stairs when fighting those sins though.

But thx for the find and sharing it with others
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Old May 23, 2007, 04:50 PM // 16:50   #31
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tbh i know mass agro on the luxon sins are good as its quicker

but the drops become fewer and worse if you mass agro, i bet you if you take 1 group at a time, you get 20x more golds.....10x more drops + money
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Old May 23, 2007, 10:07 PM // 22:07   #32
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This concept was discovered awhile ago I thought. I just remember using it on kiting Life Pods (they were so annoying) with my warrior. Basically they run in a circle going clock-wise.

Anyway, still a good find/tip.
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Old May 23, 2007, 10:35 PM // 22:35   #33
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Thank you for the complements!

Someone before suggested using SS once, then when they are very low health afterward, wand them to death.
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Old May 23, 2007, 10:54 PM // 22:54   #34
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105 rit:

Prot spirit
Shielding hands
VwK
Vengeful Weapon
Ancestor's visage
Spirit Rift
Essence
Balthazar's

11-10-10 rest(+3, +1), channeling(+3), prot prayers
3 other major rit runes, all radiant insignias.

Keep either VwK OR Shielding hands up at all times, and just spam the others. Its faster than SS(because sometimes the enemy with SS either dies or stops attacking under SS).
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Old May 25, 2007, 03:24 AM // 03:24   #35
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Oh, great idea, SS works great with mobs that have the same type, since they all have same HP, and if you attack a NPC they usually attack back.

VwK scatters more than SS I guess?
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